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    tarmo.luumann

    Fitbit has REM sleep detection in addition to light and deep sleep. 

    To my knowledge Withings hasn't implemented REM detection yet. 

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    jonnoandrews

    What's this then? 

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    tarmo.luumann

    That is good news!

    Probably some beta testers have gotten earlier version. 

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    jonnoandrews

    :)

    Fingers crossed 

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    biteaumaxime

    REM is only available for sleep mat devices (sleep sensor Aura and Sleep). It's not available on trackers ;-)

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    tarmo.luumann

    to: biteaumaxime

    Why is it so?

    Is it a technical limitation (Steel HR is not capable of detecting REM good enough - not very realistic as Fitbit can do this from wrist) or a business decision (Not many would buy sleep mat devices if Steel HR would have comparable level of sleep information)?

    If it is a business decision then Withings might hurt it's Steel HR family sales as people who consider sleep data important will turn to Fitbit instead - de facto (not de jure) market leader in sleep data at the moment. 

    So - please don't cripple Steel HR for in-house competition reasons. 

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    jonnoandrews

    There's no reason why REM can't be implemented as far as I know.  I will personally ask the people involved in the sleep challenge on facebook if they are using sleep mats and return my findings. Even under beta NDA they can answer this question.  If sleep mats are the only way to glean REM information I will be moving away from withings next purchase. 

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    jonnoandrews

    Ok well, it does look like REM is from the mats only.   How sad.  Never mind, I'll go back to fitbit next purchase. 

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    praxis22

    FitBit is a mess, and the community is fairly toxic. the complete fiasco which is the Firmware update for the Charge 3 is what made me move to Withings in the first place. I have no trust that this will ever change while they're trying to become a bank.

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    jonnoandrews

    I agree with you on fitbit they always break and I've stopped sulking over rem now 😂 I'll buy a mat instead 😊

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    jon612d

    Also agree on Fitbit.  I used to love that company but it is a mess right now.  They keep releasing new products without fixing the issues with the older products.  The company doesn't pay any attention to the community that begs for fixes and solutions.  I think Withings is a much better company with much more potential to create some great health products and wearables in the future.  I absolutely love my Steel HR Sport.  The only change I would make to it would be for the digital screen to be an LCD screen instead of an LED screen so that it was easier to read outside in bright sunlight. Great watch though.  Great company! 

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    fabioanon

    Tengo una ultima consulta que no me queda clara: la deteccion de la fase REM es imposible tecnologicamente a traves del reloj o simplemente por ahora no esta en los planres de withings?

    Gracias

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    kent

    To Withings: please make this feature available. It's simply a calculation between heart rate and sleep depth and is available on fitbit with the same tech included in Steel HR

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    mika.majuri

    Would indeed be an interesting addition.

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    enricos1997

    This is ridiculous, I doubt the competitors have more sensors on their products, so why doesn't Withings add REM sleep tracking on Steel hr?

    I would like to finish my REMs before being woken up, so it's a useful implementation for the Smart Sleep Alarm service

    Acting like that you they will only make faithful costumers switch to fitbit/Garmin/ecc..

    It's in their interest

    Let's hope for a software update! 

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    zhuixiyou

    This is disappointing! I have to wear Garmin to track the REM while sleeping.  Hope they could as this feature ASAP. Otherwise they will lost more users. 

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    juliusdecuveland

    Please withings imolement REM

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